{"id":11225,"date":"2023-11-08T17:23:55","date_gmt":"2023-11-08T17:23:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/infundpros.com\/news\/carlyle-secured-lending-inc-cgbd-q3-2023-earnings-call-transcript\/"},"modified":"2023-11-08T17:23:55","modified_gmt":"2023-11-08T17:23:55","slug":"carlyle-secured-lending-inc-cgbd-q3-2023-earnings-call-transcript","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/infundpros.com\/?p=11225","title":{"rendered":"Carlyle Secured Lending Inc. (CGBD) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-test-id=\"content-container\">\n<p>Carlyle Secured Lending Inc. (<span class=\"ticker-hover-wrapper\">NASDAQ:CGBD<\/span>) Q3 2023 Earnings Conference Call November 8, 2023 10:00 AM ET<\/p>\n<p><strong>Company Participants<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Daniel Hahn &#8211; Shareholder Relations<\/p>\n<p>Aren LeeKong &#8211; Chief Executive Officer<\/p>\n<p>Tom Hennigan &#8211; Chief Financial Officer<\/p>\n<p><strong>Conference Call Participants<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Hello and welcome to the Carlyle Secured Lending Inc. Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today&#8217;s conference is being recorded.<\/p>\n<p>It is now my pleasure to introduce Daniel Hahn, Shareholder Relations.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Daniel Hahn<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Good morning and welcome to Carlyle Secured Lending&#8217;s third quarter 2023 earnings call. With me on the call this morning is Aren LeeKong, our Chief Executive Officer; and Tom Hennigan, our Chief Financial Officer.<\/p>\n<p>Last night, we filed our Form 10-Q and issued a press release with a presentation of our results, which are available on the Investor Relations section of our Website. Following our remarks today, we will hold a question-and-answer session for analysts and institutional investors. This call is being webcast and a replay will be available on our Website.<\/p>\n<p>Any forward-looking statements made today do not guarantee future performance and any undue reliance should not be placed on them. These statements are based on current management expectations and involve inherent risks and uncertainties, including those identified in the Risk Factors section of our Annual Report on Form 10-K. These risks and uncertainties could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated. Carlyle Secured Lending assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements at any time.<\/p>\n<p>With that, I&#8217;ll turn the call over to Aren.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aren LeeKong<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Thanks Dan. Good morning, everyone, and thank you all for joining. As has become custom, I will focus my remarks on three topics for today&#8217;s call. First, I&#8217;ll provide<span class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"> an overview of the third quarter financial results. Next, I&#8217;ll touch on the current market environment. And finally, I&#8217;ll conclude with a few comments on the quarter&#8217;s investment activity and portfolio positioning.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">Starting off with earnings. We continue to see our portfolio yield benefit<span class=\"paywall-full-content no-summary-bullets invisible\"> from the higher base rate environment. In the third quarter, we generated total core NII of $0.52 per share, which is an increase of 18% from the prior year and represents an annualized return on equity of 12.4%, continuing to trend upward from last quarter and the LTM period.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Our Board of Directors declared a total fourth quarter dividend of $0.44, consisting of $0.37 of base dividend, plus a $0.07 supplemental, both of which were in line with the prior quarter. Our net asset value, as of September 30, was $16.86 per share, up $0.13 or approximately 1% from the June 30 period, as a result of our Q3 earnings outpacing our dividend and net positive movement in valuations.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Turning now to the current environment. Private credit continued to take share from the BSL market and we&#8217;ve seen sponsors continue to favor the private credit market to finance the limited number of new LBO transactions. Refinancing transactions drove the majority of activity during the quarter, which included a number of high-profile BSL names being refinanced by the private credit space.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Similar to prior quarters, terms and pricing during the third quarter leaned favorably to lenders. However, we continue to remain highly selective in putting new money to work and look for new transactions to improve the credit quality of our book and are accretive to CSL&#8217;s ROE. The weighted average spread of new investments outpaced the spread on the third quarter&#8217;s repayments for the fifth quarter in a row.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We continue to see the trend for leverage in LTVs on platform originations improve. On a year-to-date basis, average leverage in LTVs on new originations decreased by approximately one turn, and 5% respectively.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Originations benefited from the One Carlyle platform both in the US and Europe. As discussed last quarter, we are focused on complementing our traditional sponsor pipeline with other sources of transaction flow including, Carlyle generated and nonsponsored transactions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Outside of new deals, we continue to see momentum in mining the existing portfolio for add-on transactions that provide incremental economics, and allowed for improvements in the cap structure of current portfolio companies.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Lastly, I&#8217;d like to spend a few minutes on current positioning. Our portfolio remains highly diversified and is comprised of 171 investments, in 124 companies across over 25 industries. The average exposure in any single portfolio company is less than 1%, and 94% of our investments are in senior secured loans. We continue to be pleased, with the overall credit performance of our existing portfolio, with revenue and EBITDA up quarter-over-quarter and since origination.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">In addition, despite persistent inflationary pressures, our borrowers EBITDA generally remained stable. The median EBITDA across our core portfolio at the end of the quarter was $80 million and importantly, we&#8217;ve not seen any meaningful increase in the level of noncash add-backs.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">I&#8217;ll now hand the call over to our CFO, Tom Hennigan.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Tom Hennigan<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thank you, Aren. Today I&#8217;ll begin with a review of our third quarter earnings, then discuss portfolio performance and I&#8217;ll conclude with detail on our balance sheet positioning. As Aren previewed, we had another strong quarter on the earnings front. Total investment income for the third quarter was $61 million, up modestly from the prior quarter. The continued positive impact of higher base rates was partially offset by a lower average investment balance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Total expenses of $34 million also inched up versus prior quarter, again due to higher interest expense from rising base rates. The result was total investment income for the third quarter of $26 million or $0.52 per share, in line with prior quarter. Importantly, this recent level of earnings is materially above our quarterly earnings from 2022.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Our Board of Directors, declared the dividends for the fourth quarter of 2023, at a total level of $0.44 per share. That&#8217;s comprised of a $0.37 base dividend plus a $0.07 supplemental, which is payable to shareholders of record at the close of business on December 29.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Similar to prior quarters, this total dividend level of $0.44 per share allows us to bolster NAV in the face of an increasingly complex macroeconomic environment. Our base dividend coverage of over 140%, is among the highest in the BDC peer set. And we&#8217;ve grown the base dividend by nearly 16% since mid-2022.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">At the same time, total dividend level also represents an attractive yield of over 12% on the share price as of September 29. In terms of the forward outlook for earnings, we see stability in the $0.50 plus level, based on the combination of the current forward interest rate curve and attractive economics on new deals.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Despite rising rates, we&#8217;ve maintained a conservative disciplined approach that we believe will enable us to continue consistent dividend payouts in a variety of rate environments, including when rates normalize. So, we remain highly confident in our ability to comfortably meet and exceed our $0.37 based dividend and continue paying out supplemental dividends each quarter. <\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">On valuations, our total aggregate realized and unrealized net gain was about $3 million for the quarter, supported in part by tightening market spreads and improvement in valuations in some of our health care names.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">This increase in valuations combined with Q3 earnings exceeding the dividend, resulted in our NAV increasing from $16.73 and to $16.86 per share.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Turning to the portfolio, we continue to see overall stability in credit quality across the book. Importantly this quarter there were no new nonaccruals and no additions to our [Indiscernible] which deal with risk rating four to five.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Total nonaccruals were effectively flat quarter-over-quarter, as we continue to see financial performance improvement and positive valuation migration in investments like Dermatology Associates and Bayside which is formally known as PROMPT.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">And as Aren noted, most of our portfolio companies continue to weather the inflationary environment very well. And we remain confident in the credit strength of our overall portfolio. I&#8217;ll finish by touching on our financing facilities and leverage.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We continue to be well positioned on the right side of our balance sheet. Leverage is down quarter-over-quarter. And we&#8217;re intentionally running leverage conservatively at the lower end of our target range to maintain the flexibility to invest in attractive opportunities.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Statutory leverage was about 1.2 times and net financial leverage ended the quarter modestly lower at 1.06 times, the lowest levels in over a year. This positioning allows us to opportunistically deploy capital given, the attractive yields and terms available for new investments in the current market environment.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">With that, I&#8217;ll turn it back over to Aren.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Aren LeeKong<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thanks, Tom. I would like to finish by highlighting the consistency of our investment approach, and reiterate our overall strategy. We&#8217;re primarily focusing a secured, floating rate investments to US companies backed by high-quality sponsors, primarily in the mid market.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">We utilize a rigorous approach based on disciplined underwriting, prudent portfolio construction and conservative risk management. While market demand for private credit remains high, our approach has not changed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">And we remain focused on sourcing differentiated lending opportunities via the breadth and scope of the one Carlyle platform.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">I&#8217;d like to now hand the call over to the operator, to take your questions. Thank you.<\/p>\n<p id=\"question-answer-session\" class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Question-and-Answer Session<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Aren LeeKong<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thank you so much everyone. Look forward to speaking to you all in your scheduled calls. And thank you for the support. Have a great day.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\"><strong>Operator<\/strong><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating. This concludes today&#8217;s program. 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