{"id":3724,"date":"2023-10-20T15:30:34","date_gmt":"2023-10-20T15:30:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/infundpros.com\/finance\/opinion-the-4-rule-for-retirement-spending-is-now-the-4-7-rule\/"},"modified":"2023-10-20T15:30:34","modified_gmt":"2023-10-20T15:30:34","slug":"opinion-the-4-rule-for-retirement-spending-is-now-the-4-7-rule","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/infundpros.com\/?p=3724","title":{"rendered":"Opinion: The 4% rule for retirement spending is now the 4.7% rule"},"content":{"rendered":"

In some areas of life, working backwards or reverse engineering the answer you\u2019re looking for can help. Retirement savings might be one of those areas.<\/p>\n

Here\u2019s how to reverse engineer how much you\u2019ll need to have for retirement and how much you\u2019ll need to save to get there.<\/p>\n

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Step one: Start from the end or decide how much income you need \u2014 and use a 4.7% distribution rate to back into the size of the nest egg that\u2019s needed to generate it.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Why 4.7% the first year? Because that\u2019s the distribution program financial adviser Bill Bengen thinks will give you a high probability of not outliving your money, based on his seminal 1994 study of past market performance and his revision of that study in 2020.<\/p>\n

His original study argued for a 4% distribution the first year and then adjusting for inflation in subsequent years. That procedure became known as \u201cthe 4% rule.\u201d<\/p>\n

Bengen\u2019s revision takes the work of financial adviser Michael Kitces using the CAPE Ratio (appraising the stock market by current price relative to the past decade\u2019s worth of inflation-adjusted earnings) and combines it with an inflation appraisal. This gives investors more flexibility to take larger distributions under favorable conditions (cheap stocks and tame inflation) and smaller ones when the opposite conditions prevail.<\/p>\n

Bengen\u2019s new work says 4.7% is the new \u201cSAFEMAX\u201d withdrawal rate under poor conditions \u2014 his word for the most someone can take the first year with a low probability of depleting their nest egg. Take more than 4.7% from your nest egg the first year, according to the new adjustment, and you run the risk of outliving your money. Take less, and you may leave more on the table than you\u2019d like.<\/p>\n

Now let\u2019s get down to brass tacks for someone still some distance from retirement: Let\u2019s say you want $20,000 of annual income in today\u2019s dollars your first year in retirement from your investments to supplement Social Security and any pensions you might have. <\/p>\n

That means you need around $426,000 in savings and investments, because $20,000 is 4.7% of $426,000. If you want to take $40,000 from your assets, you should probably have $851,000 saved at retirement, and so on.<\/p>\n

Here we arrive at the first uncertainty \u2014 market conditions may change during retirement and the 4.7% withdrawal rate may make a portfolio adjustment necessary.\u00a0<\/p>\n

So if stocks tank your first few years of retirement when you start taking distributions and you have a stock-heavy portfolio, you can scuttle your plan.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s why Bengen, in a recent interview with MarketWatch, said he is in favor of a new retiree with a balanced allocation cutting their stock exposure by as much as half, to around 30%, given current stock prices and concerns about inflation.<\/p>\n

Bengen said: \u201cProtect your nest egg; don\u2019t let it get smashed by a bear market early in retirement.\u201d He continued: \u201cBuy and hold works best for saving for retirement, but doesn\u2019t apply to folks in retirement. . . .We don\u2019t have any historical period over last 100 years which contains such a high CAPE and inflation in this range.\u201d<\/p>\n

So take the 4.7%, but tone down your portfolio.<\/p>\n

For those not yet retired, the second step is to apply an inflation rate to adjust the distribution dollar value you think you\u2019ll need. An online inflation calculator can help with this.<\/p>\n

In other words, the $20,000 you need in our example probably will not have the purchasing power when you retire as it does now. For example, if you\u2019re retiring in, say, 20 years and inflation is 3.5% annually along the way, then about $40,000 will have the purchasing power that $20,000 does now.<\/p>\n

That means you\u2019ll need $851,000 in assets (again following the 4.7% distribution rule), not $426,000, to generate a level of income \u2014 $40,000 \u2014 with the purchasing power that $20,000 has today.<\/p>\n

An inflation assumption of 3.5% a year is a higher number compared to the rate of inflation from 1982 up until 2021, which averaged 2.76% according to data from the Minneapolis Fed. But it may be realistic for the next two decades. It may even be low. <\/p>\n

So now, after using the 4.7% rule and making an inflation adjustment, you have an idea, however imprecise, of how big a nest egg you need to retire in the fashion you want \u2014 $851,000 to generate $40,000 of income starting in 20 years (or the equivalent of $20,000 in purchasing power today).<\/p>\n

The third and last step is how to amass that $851,000 in order to generate $40,000 of income in two decades.<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s say you\u2019re 45 years old with $100,000 saved. If we assume a 6% return on your investment, that will give you $320,000 in 20 years (not counting taxes or other fees).<\/p>\n

So you need another $531,000. Again, assuming a 6% average annual rate of return for the next two decades, that means you have to save around $14,000 per year for 20 years. Any online retirement calculator that can handle compound interest can get you that answer.<\/p>\n

Now you have the three basic steps for understanding what you might need to save for retirement:<\/p>\n

1. Start with the income you think you\u2019ll need, and back into the amount of money that can generate the income safely using the 4.7% rule. <\/p>\n

2. Adjust both your required income and nest egg for an assumed rate of inflation.<\/p>\n

3. Use a retirement calculator to figure how much you still need to save to achieve that nest egg.<\/p>\n

John Coumarianos is the founder and managing member of Mindful Advisory, LLC in Northvale, N.J.<\/em><\/p>\n

More: <\/strong>Beating the 4% rule in retirement has become even easier<\/p>\n

Plus: <\/strong>How never to outlive your money<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n

Read the full article here<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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