{"id":9491,"date":"2023-11-04T07:38:06","date_gmt":"2023-11-04T07:38:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/infundpros.com\/news\/what-is-the-bond-market-telling-us\/"},"modified":"2023-11-04T07:38:08","modified_gmt":"2023-11-04T07:38:08","slug":"what-is-the-bond-market-telling-us","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/infundpros.com\/?p=9491","title":{"rendered":"What Is The Bond Market Telling Us?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-test-id=\"content-container\">\n<p><figure class=\"getty-figure\" data-type=\"getty-image\"><picture>  <\/picture><figcaption> <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p>In my latest Federal Reserve Watch post, I argued that the Federal Reserve slightly changed positions in early April in response to the commercial bank failures it was having to deal with.<\/p>\n<p>That change, as I showed in<span class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\"> the post, changed a lot of statistical series around that time and I continue to find these changes coming up in more and more different places.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">Today, I will discuss some changes that have been reflected recently in the bond markets.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">In effect, starting in April there was a very definite change in the way that investors seemed to see things.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">Since the end of March to the close of the market on Friday, the yield on both the 5-year U.S. Treasury note and the 10-year U.S. Treasury note have risen by about 100 basis points.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible\">The yield on<span class=\"paywall-full-content no-summary-bullets invisible\"> the 5-year Treasury note has risen from about 3.6 percent to about 4.5 percent.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The yield on the 10-year Treasury note has risen from about 3.5 percent to about 4.5 percent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Here we see the movement in the yield on the 10-year U.S. Treasury note.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/infundpros.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/219293-169904309774842.png\" alt=\"Yield on 10-year\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\">Yield on 10-year U.S. Treasury note <span>(Federal Reserve)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">You can see that the rise from late March is quite steady.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Next, we see the movement in the yield on the 5-year U.S. Treasury note.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/infundpros.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/219293-16990432861750402.png\" alt=\"Yield on 5-year\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\">Yield on 5-year U.S. Treasury note <span>(Federal Reserve)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The rise in this yield roughly follows the path of the yield on the 10-year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Now, what is interesting is that the yield on the Treasury Inflation Protected securities (TIPS), both the 5-year maturity and the 10-year maturity rose by roughly 100 basis points during this time period as well.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">\n<figure class=\"regular-img-figure paywall-full-content invisible\" contenteditable=\"false\"><picture> <span><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/infundpros.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/219293-1699043651841083.png\" alt=\"Yield on the 10-year TIPs\" contenteditable=\"false\" loading=\"lazy\"><\/span> <\/picture><figcaption>\n<p class=\"item-caption\">Yield on the 10-year U.S. Treasury Inflation Protected Securities <span>(Federal Reserve)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The chart for the yield on the 5-year TIPs was roughly the same and I have chosen not to present it at this time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">So, what are we trying to say here?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Well, it seems as if during this time period, the yields on the 5-year U.S. Treasury notes and the yields on the 10-year U.S. Treasury notes rose&#8230;roughly&#8230;100 basis points.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">During this same time period, the yields on the 5-year U.S. Treasury Inflation Protected notes and the yields on the 10-year U.S. Treasury Inflation Protected notes also rose by&#8230;roughly&#8230;100 basis points.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Remarkable.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Going a bit further, we attempt to estimate the inflationary expectations investors build into market yields by subtracting the yield on the TIPs security from the nominal yield on the note.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thus, if the nominal yield on the current 10-year U.S. Treasury note is 4.5 percent and the yield on the 10-year U.S. Treasury Inflation Protected security is currently 2.1 percent, as they were at the market close on November 3, 2023, then the inflationary expectations built into the nominal yield is 2.4 percent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">When we compare this with the estimation for inflationary expectations built into the end-of-March number, we find that inflationary expectations are just about the same as the current number.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">That is, over the past seven months, investors have roughly the same expectations for inflation now as they had at the end of March.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">And, the inflationary expectations built into the yield on the 5-year U.S. Treasury note have not changed over the past seven months, at the end of March.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Thus, with all that has gone on in the U.S. economy and in the world, investors in the U.S. bond markets have not changed their outlook for inflation over the next 5-year period and over the next 10-year period.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">That is, investors expect that the compound inflation rate in the U.S. economy over the next five- to ten-year period will be roughly around 2.3 percent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Note this is above the target level of inflation that the Federal Reserve is shooting for&#8230;but it is not &#8220;way over&#8221; the target level of inflation that the Federal Reserve is shooting for.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">U.S. Economic Growth<\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">So what does this say about investors&#8217; view of the future of economic growth?<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Well, continuing the approach already begun, we come up with the conclusion that the investment community appears to believe that the U.S. economy will experience a compound rate of growth over the next five years&#8230;and over the next ten years&#8230;of about 2.2 percent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Note that I am writing about the compound rate of growth over the next 5- to 10-years, and I am saying nothing about whether or not there will be one or more recessions over this time period.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">What the markets seem to be telling us is that we can expect the economy will end the next ten years at a level that can be achieved by a 2.2 percent compound rate of growth every year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Not too shabby.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Just as an example, the U.S. economy grew by 2.3 percent per year from the end of the Great Recession in 2009 to the beginning of the Covid-19 recession in March 2020.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">So, investors in the bond market are saying that the next ten years of economic growth will not be too far different from the economic growth that was achieved in the 2010s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">And, with inflation staying down around 2.2 percent per year over this time period.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">One further note, the compound rate of inflation in the 2010s was about the same level.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Most Interesting<\/h2>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The most interesting thing, however, that I get from these data is that over the past seven months, there has been a truly remarkable change in the outlook bond market investors have about the outlook for the economy.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">At the end of March, right before the change in the behavior of the Federal Reserve, bond investors were expecting that the economy would grow at around a 1.2 percent to 1.3 percent rate of growth over the next five- to ten-years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Attitudes changed in April and we now see that bond investors are expecting the economy to grow by about 100 basis points more over the next five- to ten-years.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">This is quite a remarkable change!<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">The bond market is saying that the Fed will bring inflation roughly to a level not far above its target rate of inflation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">And, the bond market is saying that the economic growth to be achieved over the next decade will be around the level that was achieved in the 2010s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"paywall-full-content invisible no-summary-bullets\">Overall, not too bad.<\/p>\n<p 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